Now it appears that over 17 billion will go to help the Big 3 bail themselves out. I heard that Ford may say no. I cant help but think that they should fail and go into bankruptcy. I realize that hundreds of thousands of jobs are at stake when you include all the outsourcing that goes along with the industry. Hence, I appreciate what the president is trying to do. But they still make cars that no one wants, cannot afford to buy and have virtually no feedback from the public that they use to make changes. I see that Chrysler will shut down for a month and that 4 months of inventory are out there right now. I guess I am still torn. We are all in a holding pattern and waiting to see what will happen. We only you can decide what will happen and decide what success looks like. That is the freedom of the Capitalism model. The market decides if they want your car. Let the recession takes its course is till my motto.